I wonder why Paul wouldn't mention John if their teachings were so different when he freely mentions Peter for the sin of only eating with Gentiles. It makes me think that Paul may have not been so different from John; that his ecclesiology is not comprised of offices but functions and that whatever he means by his passages on women that they were grabbed by the patriarchy and twisted to their own ends. We need not forget that Paul's letters have received way more attention (and thus way more twisting) than John's.
Good points. We can explain Paul’s lack of mentioning John by the fact that Paul died before the Johannine Community migrated to Ephesus around 85-90 AD. I think their ecclesiology is not different at root (both being moved and inspired by the Spirit). Differences arise from different contexts, just like we see differences between, say, Corinthians and 1 Timothy.
Thanks for reading, Mary! Women are so strongly mentioned by John himself*, it’s hard to understand how preachers routinely miss what John’s Gospel says about women.
*I actually dont believe John’s Gospel had one author, and believe women may have contributed to the text, which I also recently wrote about here:
You paint a vivid picture.
I wonder why Paul wouldn't mention John if their teachings were so different when he freely mentions Peter for the sin of only eating with Gentiles. It makes me think that Paul may have not been so different from John; that his ecclesiology is not comprised of offices but functions and that whatever he means by his passages on women that they were grabbed by the patriarchy and twisted to their own ends. We need not forget that Paul's letters have received way more attention (and thus way more twisting) than John's.
Good points. We can explain Paul’s lack of mentioning John by the fact that Paul died before the Johannine Community migrated to Ephesus around 85-90 AD. I think their ecclesiology is not different at root (both being moved and inspired by the Spirit). Differences arise from different contexts, just like we see differences between, say, Corinthians and 1 Timothy.
I really appreciate your strong mention of the women in this gospel.
Thanks for reading, Mary! Women are so strongly mentioned by John himself*, it’s hard to understand how preachers routinely miss what John’s Gospel says about women.
*I actually dont believe John’s Gospel had one author, and believe women may have contributed to the text, which I also recently wrote about here:
https://open.substack.com/pub/beautifuldiscipleship/p/beautiful-discipleship-in-the-gospel?r=16589c&utm_medium=ios
Thank you for sharing that article!